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[Fontforge-devel] Antialias .ttf files by default in Windows
Steve White
2008-02-17 00:38:48 UTC
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Investigating a longstanding bug with the GNU Freefonts:
The TrueType fonts look awful in Windows.

It's true, because they aren't anti-aliased.
Some programs such as PuTTY, can turn antialiasing on.
Then they look great.

Also, if I build .otf files using FontForge, these are antialiased in Windows.

So what am I missing with the .ttf files, to make Windows anti-alias
them by default?

Thanks!
Michal Nowakowski
2008-02-17 11:30:07 UTC
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Post by Steve White
So what am I missing with the .ttf files, to make Windows anti-alias
them by default?
Try to play with Element -> Font Info -> GASP.

Regards,

Michał Nowakowski
Steve White
2008-02-17 21:15:58 UTC
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Michal,

Good pointer, but no luck.

I tried every combination I could imagine
Font Info -> Grid Fitting
including the setups in DejaVu Serif and finally TImes New Roman.

The result was, Windows still did not anti-alias the Freefonts by default.

There must be another switch somewhere...
Post by Michal Nowakowski
Post by Steve White
So what am I missing with the .ttf files, to make Windows anti-alias
them by default?
Try to play with Element -> Font Info -> GASP.
Regards,
Michał Nowakowski
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Michal Nowakowski
2008-02-18 11:20:14 UTC
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Post by Steve White
Good pointer, but no luck.
I tried every combination I could imagine
I can't reproduce this under my WinXP :/
Even FreeFonts 20060126 look fine in grayscale.

George, shouldn't [default] GASP be rather
"Anti-Alias" than "No Anti-Alias"?

...

Mono looks bad in monochrome. This can be cured
with GASP and Hints->Edit 'prep':

PUSHW_1
511
SCANCTRL

Note that this also matters for XP's cleartype...
Vista allegedly has its fixed.

Regards,

Michał Nowakowski
Steve White
2008-02-18 19:49:37 UTC
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Michal,

I have only Vista here.

But people have been complaining about this FreeFont problem for many years.
Post by Michal Nowakowski
Post by Steve White
Good pointer, but no luck.
I tried every combination I could imagine
I can't reproduce this under my WinXP :/
Even FreeFonts 20060126 look fine in grayscale.
There are bug reports out that say it doesn't.

Could there be a system-wide switch in Windows that overrides its
default determination as to whether the font should be anti-aliased or
not.
Post by Michal Nowakowski
George, shouldn't [default] GASP be rather
"Anti-Alias" than "No Anti-Alias"?
...
Mono looks bad in monochrome. This can be cured
PUSHW_1
511
SCANCTRL
I'll give it a shot.
Post by Michal Nowakowski
Note that this also matters for XP's cleartype...
Vista allegedly ha
George Williams
2008-02-20 19:02:17 UTC
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Post by Michal Nowakowski
Post by Steve White
Good pointer, but no luck.
I tried every combination I could imagine
I can't reproduce this under my WinXP :/
Even FreeFonts 20060126 look fine in grayscale.
George, shouldn't [default] GASP be rather
"Anti-Alias" than "No Anti-Alias"?
The default depends on a complicated way upon the pixel size, which
isn't know when the default is set...

George Williams
2008-02-20 18:22:40 UTC
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Post by Steve White
The TrueType fonts look awful in Windows.
It's true, because they aren't anti-aliased.
Some programs such as PuTTY, can turn antialiasing on.
Then they look great.
Also, if I build .otf files using FontForge, these are antialiased in Windows.
So what am I missing with the .ttf files, to make Windows anti-alias
them by default?
The gasp table controls this. But I was under the impression that for
most pixel sizes anti-aliasing was on by default.

Things are more complex under ClearType and may have changed.
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